Just wait until the vibe coder overwrites 3 months of “work” with garbage because ChatGPT never told them about git and then decided to poop the pants.
already happened lol https://lemmy.eco.br/post/11724141
Today I learned the term Vibe Coding. I love it.
Edit: This article is a treasure.
The concept of vibe coding elaborates on Karpathy’s claim from 2023 that “the hottest new programming language is English”,
Claim from 2023?! Lol. I’ve heard (BASIC) that (COBOL) before (Ruby).
A key part of the definition of vibe coding is that the user accepts code without full understanding.[1] AI researcher Simon Willison said: “If an LLM wrote every line of your code, but you’ve reviewed, tested, and understood it all, that’s not vibe coding in my book—that’s using an LLM as a typing assistant.”[1]
Did we make it from AI hype to AI dunk in the space of a single Wikipedia article? Lol.
Interesting that the term was coined by someone who presumably intended it to mean a good thing. I assumed it to be an entirely derogatory term…
Well, lots of words are sort of derogatory in programming right? Hackers hacking things together, rubber duck debugging (you have a bug? Go talk to a toy!), git blame and probably more
Edit: forget git blame, git itself is already slang for idiot. As Linus Torvalds once said, he created two successful projects, both named after himself
Sure, but those words have been coined by the nerds, or those that don’t try to sell you anything at least. The guy very much wants to sell you vibe coding and LLMs and whatnot.
I’ve ended up becoming the sole caretaker of two react native apps, something I did not ask for but some people were fried.
I’m not going to manually troubleshoot and learn everything that breaks when I need to update a dependency. I’ll vibe through those errors, learn what I have time for and then test it like mad.
A lot of the time I end up having to solve things myself but my job wouldn’t be tolerable if I had to manually work that shit.
Yeah. The “this got dumped on us and we’re doing the minimum until we can replace it” is a genuinely solid use case for vibe coding.
And honestly, that’s all I usually did with those before AI came along anyway. So I welcome better tools for it.
Vibe Coding essentially automates copy-and-pasting the answers from StackOverflow.com.
But sometimes it pastes in the code from the questions.
To be fair, sometimes it is right to take the code from the questions. Eg if you want behaviour x and the question is “how do I do y, my code is only doing x?” Then the code you want is from the question.
If those vibe coders knew what a binary tree was, they’d be very upset.
vibe coding is the dumbest term they could have come up with. can we call it imbecile coding instead?
I mean, surely you did it for the exercise, right? If you needed a solution, you could’ve very likely used a library…
Having fewer/no dependencies is nice though
Well, we have a tool for that called vendoring, a.k.a. copy-pasting the library code into your repo. It’s no worse than copy-pasting LLM-generated code…
To me the disadvantage would be, the library likely does many more things than just what you need it for, so there is way more code, so you probably can’t realistically read and understand it yourself before incorporating it. This would lead to among other issues the main thing that irritates me about libraries; if it turns out something in it is broken, you are stuck with a much bigger debugging problem where you first have to figure out how someone else’s code is structured.
Although I guess that doesn’t apply as much to implementations of common algorithms like OP since the library is probably solid. I would consider favoring LLM code over most anything off npm though.
idk man. Algorithms are always the fun part for me. Real work, not so much.
I love the in between, where you have to actually adapt algorithms to useful situations
It’s like 2% of all the work I do, but those moments stick with me
Now… Now… Wait until they have to debug it
They will resort to vibe debugging
“I’m a full stack Viber. Vibes all the way down”
Or fix a simple syntax error. I’ve seen that a few times from juniors who thought they were too smart to learn, and it’s painful to watch.
LLMs excel at fixing typos. That’s honestly the most useful aspect of them.
Which is also not a real use-case. Like, just check your work, you don’t need a tool for that.
Hell I don’t even use spell-check because it’s just distracting, and it’s a fundamentally wrong way to think about language.
You don’t want to. Fine. Other people do. Fine.
People are being miseducated about what they can achieve by charlatans looking to make a quick buck before the hype bubble implodes, and the tech is helping cook the planet.
It’s not “fine”.
that’s a separate argument from “it’s not useful”.
You are not worth talking to.
