Democratic lawmakers have faced eruptions of anger at town hall meetings across the country this week, as constituents have coupled their fury over President Donald Trump’s actions with deep frustration over what they see as a feckless Democratic response.
As an Aussie watching what’s happening over there, all I’ve got to say is that the days of honourable dueling are gone - your leaders need to understand that you’re in a dirty street fight now!
My brother taught me there is no such thing as a fair fight.
Your brother is correct
Your brother is wise.
Ocasio-Cortez, at an event in Las Vegas, Nevada, said Trump has “handed the keys to Elon Musk and is selling this country for parts to the richest people on the planet for a kickback.” But she also had sharp words for her own party.
“We need a Democratic Party that fights harder for us too,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “But what that means is that we as a community must choose and vote for Democrats and elected officials who know how to stand for the working class.”
Leftists:
So if I there’s nobody on the ballot who I think will fight for working people I don’t need to vote for them?
No, you need to run
“My plan is to eliminate jobs. People have better things to do” is not a winning message, but it’s the only one I believe in.
Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders 2028
Democrats: No we need to do this
This is why we lose. Fucking unite for something, geez
if Americans are going to just sit and wait, the US won’t be recognizable in 4 years, and there sure as hell won’t be a free and fair election
Many Americans are not. There’s protests happening everyday, across the country. It’s, not being talked about but it’s absolutely happening.
Besides bluesky, can we start seeing more of the protests here on lemmy? And see it flood the pages here? If someone just posts one a day from each location, that will kick start enough people to join
Be safe. Be discreet. The administration is violent right now and accelerating. They are violating civil and human rights. Get involved in your local offline chapters, please. These places are being watched too and pictures may be used to nab others that attend. They also may be used/posted for predatory reasons. Protect yourselves and your comrades in arms. Unless you know what you are doing (and even then think 2x), do not bring your phone to protests. Keep it charged in a place you frequent.
I get what you’re saying, but if a protest is not seen, was it really effective?
It’s working when they don’t want people to see it. The revolution will not be televised. This isn’t something for media. That is cheap and doesn’t actually change things. People need to leave the house, build community, collaborate and organise, in person. Social media won’t protect you when ICE knocks, but a neighbour will. It’s not real life.
Lately my emotions have tended toward anger at the apathetic middle, not the cartoon villains of the Penguin Administration.
I know it’s a minority view but I blame all this on the nice normal people that thought they had better things to do than pay attention to politics.
If you do not see the need for aggressive responses to lawlessness, you let this happen and I find you boring.
The former Berlin businessman I referred to earlier told me that he blamed his own group, people with the time and the money and the opportunity to know better, for what happened to Germany. “We ignored Hitler,” he said. “We considered him an unimportant fellow, not quite a gentleman, not of our own class. We considered it just a little bit vulgar to bother with him, to bother with politics at all.”
They thought of the government as “They.” The only possible route to a clear conscience in politics is to accept political responsibility, either as an active member of the party in power or as an equally active member of the loyal opposition.
Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
“We’ve tried nothing, and we’re all out of ideas.”- The Democratic Party
“But please donate to my campaign to STOP this. We will soon, I promise”
The amount of “gib monies plz” messages I got infuriated me. Like you aren’t doing diddly squat why would I ?!?
I think our society is ducked up enough that economically it makes better sense to have a loyal audience of easy marks than a wide audience of fickle donors. Donald Trump figures this out years ago and has been cultivating/brainwashing that audience since.
Idk how to counter it except that maybe if we gave people cheaper/free essential goods (housing, school lunches etc) they’d be less inclined to go insane and support scammers like trump or the modern democratic party.
Here’s a 100 texts from candidates running for city commissioner in TN and you live on the west coast.
I don’t see people screaming at Bernie, AOC or Tim Walz. Wonder why that is…. Oh maybe it’s because they’re actually willing to notice the frustrations of their base.
“Wait you want us to fight for your rights, like you elected us to do? I dunno, that sounds like effort. It’s much easier to agree to what Republicans want and it theoretically looks good on paper that we wanna work with Fascists. Maybe we’ll get some of their voters this time!”
“I know we campaigned on fighting fascism but that was more of a ‘if we win’ thing”
"As we all know, we only do what we want when we win. Your house rep doesn’t still work when they win their seat, right? …They do? They still try to get things done?
Well, uh, you know you can’t do what you want when you’re in the minority of Congress. Wait Republicans did exactly that for 15 years? And got all their demands with the filibuster and delaying?
Well republicans would just use that as ammo for their messaging. Please ignore they’ll do anything we do as massaging, from tan suits to mustard. We have to give them what they want, there’s nothing else we could do!"
The Republican demands were to NOT do things, which can be moved towards by filibuster and delay. The Democrat demands are to DO things, and filibuster and delay would just get the Republicans what they want, while being able to blame the Democrats for all the negative effects that are surprising to their constituents. They need to find better messages and ways to get those messages out, absolutely, but it’s not a mirror image to the Republican situation four years ago.
So about that government shutdown…
Democrats hit 27% approval this week…
That’s ironically the level Schumer said Dems would start doing stuff when Trump hit.
No one likes neoliberals, or their policies
It’s just not an effective political strategy, regardless of how you try to look at it. Even ignoring popularity with voters, even when neoliberals get elected, they refuse to do anything.
The entire purpose of it is doing nothing, it’s political nihilism.
No one likes neoliberals
51% of voters consistently vote for Democrats.
Barack fucking OBAMA was a neoliberal.
If you think neolibs are unpopular, you’re in quite a bubble.
Global warming is crushing it right now. Does that make it popular? Tf?
Kind of, yeah. I don’t think the analogy holds up though. Half the population doesn’t think neolibs are fake news.
What would constitute fighting?
People keep complaining about Democrats not doing anything, but under current constraints there isn’t much they can do.
People seem to spend more time complaining about Democrats not opposing Republicans than they do complaining about Republicans destroying America.
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Time for the neoliberal world order to end. Want Republicans to actually be scared of Democrats? Fill the party with socialists.
Time for the neoliberal world order to end
Monkey’s paw curls
We now have a fascist world order.
…which is the true goal of these “hello there, fellow leftist” bastards who exclusively attack Democrats.
If they occupy the only space to defeat Trump and they do a bad job at it, of course they get “attacked.”
If they don’t want to be criticized, they shouldn’t be public figures. If they don’t want to have people have actual reasons to call them out, they shouldn’t have and keep unpopular policies. If they don’t want to represent their people, they shouldn’t be in office.
You act like them being politicians gives you the right to spread propaganda.
Propaganda = criticism
Got it, don’t call out your favorite team, they’re immune to critcism. Calling them out is
wokepropaganda. Sources proving them owned by corporations?DEI newsRussian media.Pretty much. It’s very rare to find a good faith criticism of Democrats on lemmy. All you have to do is ask what they think about Trump, or Russia. Usually you get a deflection, or crickets. Or [removed by mod]. Not allowed to criticize Dear Leader, only Democrats.
This is hilarious to read first thing logging on, thank you.
Sounds great. But maybe you should get out of your bubble every now and then to realize that a party full of open socialists would 100% fail in the US.
I am aware of how popular Bernie’s policy goals are. It does not matter.
You might be right, but I also submit that, when talking to Trump voters (older family members of me and my friends mostly), instead of “proving them wrong” about Trump, I’ve been redirecting the conversation toward “isn’t all that bad stuff the fault of rich people?”, and it has had a 100% success rate so far. They fucking hate the wealthy too. They ain’t waving the red flag, but I bet a lot more of them would vote for someone just to screw over the rich than most people think.
Yeah, but it does not matter. They will still vote Republican. At least the people I’m thinking of. I can’t speak for anyone else.
I was thinking the other day, wondering, "What % of legal - born and raised - Americans seeth with hatred for the United States, and would actively hurt America, anyway they can. What % and what political stance they have, and of course, it’s the democratic party.
Lemme rephrase… Simply, if you’re American, but you also hate America and are politically active. 98%, you’re a democrat.
What one focus on in life will become a bigger part of one’s life. The left needs to ditch the hate. I’ll come back when “democrat” isn’t synonymous with hate.
Being critical of the government vs oppressing criticism by calling it hate
Yeah I think I know what side I’m on
No, it’s not oppression, it’s calling an apple an apple. Democrats don’t usually mind expressing their hateful views about America. They are quite vocal about how they hate America.
Hey champ, here’s a tip; instead of writing, “lemme rephrase,” halfway through your comment, you can just delete the portion that’s poorly phrased! That way, instead of having to read (what I’ll generously call) a paragraph of word salad, people can start at the part that’s (again, generously) coherent! Also, you might want to look up, “what does a hyphen do,” or, “when to use commas vs. periods,” because you write like an AI that was trained exclusively by ESL students and stroke victims.
You should try and figure out why you believe this. Clearly people here don’t agree, and it doesn’t ring true to me either. How many people do you actually know who seethe with hatred for the US?
Bigotry is so insidious in America that when you call it out for the poison that it is, bigots call you anti-American.
The GOP cosplay as patriots to confuse small minded fools that striving for a better life is un-American. As if our founding fathers weren’t looking for a better life.
You’re looking at the map upside down.
