Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.
We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.
-The Tesla board, probably
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder
If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.
They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.
Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.
Id rather just see Tesla burn to the ground.
It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.
Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from
I am of the opinion that no one should be vandalizing property that they don’t own themselves. Protest, sure (following whatever laws Canada has in place for that), don’t buy a Tesla, sure, encourage everyone you’ve ever met not to buy one, fine, but please respect the right of people who don’t want their stuff vandalized.
Also, while dealerships have insurance, doing this just makes the insurance go up for everyone. But that’s not my point. People shouldn’t vandalize the property of others because they really, really, really x5, don’t like Elon.
I’m not an Elon or Trump apologist, I’m just someone fighting on the side of civilized behavior.
When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.
This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on wealthy tax evaders, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.
Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.
I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.
But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.
No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.
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By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi. Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?
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Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.
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It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.
Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.
By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi.
Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?
Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?
Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?
Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.
Ok, we’re not talking about the past right now. We’re talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.
It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.
Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.
Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.
No, it’s principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.
So in other words, you’ll remain childish and reductive. That would have been much shorter than reading your drivel.
It’s far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie… adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.
Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.
The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone “just sell your car and walk” or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.
The right thing to do is often not easy.
Let me guess, you’d be OK with turning in a person hiding migrants, because it’s easier to do that?
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So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.
Nuance my friend.
I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.
Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.
This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
No one cares what you do or don’t condone. You’re no one.
It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.
Yer heart is in the right place.
I hope you can gain perspective.
I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.
Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.
When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.
Not all that surprising that Canadians are especially pissed off. Didn’t he say Canada isn’t a real country and then he deleted the Tweet afterwards? Yes he did…
Wow. He actually deleted a Tweet? He usually stands by all the stupid shit he’s said, proudly at that.
Teslas are not real cars
It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.
The feelings of cars…?
Precisely
Is it though?
In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”
The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.
And if it bleeds we can kill it.
Ok but go at the billionaires. Not Dave from Accounting.
At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.
Tesla’s aren’t selling?
- Set them on fire.
- Claim that it’s arson.
- File insurance claim.
- Profit.
I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.
Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.
He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.
He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.
One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.
Upvote for Knowledge Fight!
I used to listen to Alex Jones for fun way before he was big. It was genuinely entertaining. Then Sandyhook happened and it wasn’t so funny anymore.
Knowledge Fight is like finding friends to make fun of Alex Jones with :)
Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.
‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.
I’ll check it out!
I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.
It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.
This strikes me as an odd qualifier.
Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?
Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.
Demonstrates to the American electorate that democrats celebrate and encourage criminal behavior. How does this help you win elections? Do you think an independent looks at this situation and thinks “Yes these are the people I want to be in charge.” So shortsighted and childish.
You sound like a conservative plant lamenting the so-called peaceful liberals, you’ve been sold a lie
Why would i be a conservative plant? I think America needs two viable political parties and presently one party cannot compete. Their interpretation of reality is questionable making them repulsive to normal people, which is why they won’t vote for you.
Why are you trying to frame it as a Democrat versus Republican thing both sides can have equal amounts of grievances with the shit ass state ofthe fucking presidency right now
It is obviously liberal burning down charging stations, spray painting swastikas, and throwing molotov cocktails. With Democrat politicians celebrating and encouraging the behavior. Im not framing it’s reality.
As opposed to republicans that elected a 34 count felon, court-certified rapist, pedophile president? Party of law and order, am I right? Be glad that it’s shitty, overpriced EVs they’re targeting.
There is a different view to your statement. We live in a democracy and we had an election where the citizens chose a felon, Nazi, dictator over your side. They would rather have a court certified rapist in charge than you. Just think about that and understand how repulsive and out of touch you have to be for that to happen. This effort to destroy Tesla is only hurting your cause. It is counterproductive, childish, and small. It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.
Republicans won because of voter suppression and purging. What you’re saying is “Pants on fire” rewriting of history. Also Jan6ers were much, much more violent so I think Democrats are simply trying out their fascism strategy.
Vandalizing Teslas is legal, the precedent was set when Jan6ers were pardoned. So your morality argument is wrong too.
If you need to tell yourself that “they cheated” then you are doing exactly what Republicans did in 2020 making you just like them. Yes the Jan6ers were pardoned but most people do not support it and believe those people should be in prison. Just like the people fire bombing tesla dealerships and charging stations should be in prison.
A strawman, Republicans claimed election fraud (2 + 2 = 5), Democrats claimed voter suppression disproportionately affects them (2 + 2 = 4). What do you think 2 + 2 = ?
You think that violent insurrection against our country by storming the capitol is the same as vandalizing a few cars? How long do you think the sentences should be for each crime? I’d say one is 100x the sentence of the other.
Firebombing car dealerships, charging stations, and violent attacks against people who drive Teslas isn’t “vandalization” . 90,000,000 eligible voters didnt vote by choice. They are vocal on why they didn’t vote and it’s not voter suppression. Keep lying to yourself if you want or just go read about the reasons. It’s not a secret.
There are many reasons for an election win or loss. But the big one we care about in 2024 was widespread purging. It’s quasilegal, there’s evidence of it, it’s cheating, and it suppresses Democrat votes much more.
There were 7 billion people who didn’t immigrate into the US and thus didn’t vote, they were very clear as to why they didn’t come to America. That’s just as relevant as your 90 million, actually more because it’s 100x the people! Don’t get me started on extraterrestrials we didn’t find, there could be trillions. It was clear the reasons we didn’t fund SETI.
“Vandalizing isn’t vandalizing”. You made no argument here.
We live in a democracy
Do you?
It’s almost like you want MAGA to win the next election.
Assuming there is one
Yes the next election will be in 2026. This is why people question your ability to interpret reality.
We dibt live in one anymore.
