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@Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world •
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If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class

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If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class

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  • @HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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    138•1 month ago

    Oh so a first amendment violation as a law.

    • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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      66•1 month ago

      • @errer@lemmy.world
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        22•1 month ago

        You thoughtless person, where’s the disclaimer?! I dislocated a rib laughing at this

        • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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          18•1 month ago

          Well, have you said thank you once?

          /s

          • @frunch@lemmy.world
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            8•1 month ago

            😭

          • @AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works
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            4•1 month ago

            pweese say tank you

          • @GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3•1 month ago

            I would, but i don’t have the cards.

            • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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              3•1 month ago

              You just activated my trap card!

        • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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          4•1 month ago

          You’re right, where are my manners? Thanks for this wonderful gif.

      • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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        4•1 month ago

        Ahh JD’s true form!

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      5•1 month ago

      It actually sounds sane, but no, won’t pass 1A muster in any court.

      https://old.lemmy.world/comment/16787464

      • @Mirshe@lemmy.world
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        8•1 month ago

        The issue is whether that matters. Texas has always been a testbed for things like “can we just ignore the Constitution” and “can we just ignore court orders”.

  • @mkwt@lemmy.world
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    76•1 month ago
    1. The law applies only to office holders, candidates, campaigns, or to people who buy or sell political advertising.
    2. People and platforms who post and distribute content without exchanging money are exempted.
    3. All the big media firms: tv, radio, ISPs, Internet content platforms, and billboard operators are exempted when they just run someone else’s ads. The people who are liable are the ones who place the ads.
    4. The requirement is to include a disclosure message when depictions of a public figure have been altered by technology: Photoshop, AI, deepfake audio, or whatever else. The content itself is not censored, it just has to be noticed that it’s artificial.
    5. “Superficial” alterations are exempted from the notice message, for example, changing the color balance on a video.
    • @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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      14•1 month ago

      What does this actually accomplish then?

      • @mkwt@lemmy.world
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        15•1 month ago

        Hard to say for sure, but probably more “fine print” style notices on TV ads and billboards.

        This could conceivably be used to prosecute dirty tricks-style campaigns. For example, many years ago there was an anonymous mailer campaign against the incumbent mayor in my city where a photograph of him was photoshopped to insinuate that had been beaten up, when he really hadn’t. That kind of thing might become the target of this if it becomes law.

        It’s also possible that federal courts will step in and carve out some exceptions for obviously fake parody stuff. Texas law cannot override the first amendment.

      • @JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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        5•1 month ago

        A chilling effect and job security for lawyers.

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2•1 month ago

        About as much as Trump trying to do a pushup 🤷

    • kn0wmad1c
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      11•1 month ago

      But will they face consequences?

    • @WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
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      10•1 month ago

      Honestly sounds reasonable to me. But it would be nice if they could include deterring that over dramatic black-and-white effect lol.

      • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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        1•1 month ago

        It sounds reasonable to me, too, but given that it was passed by the Texas legislature, I’m certain there’s something nefarious about it. Texas politics is dirty tricks all the way down.

  • @JustAThought@lemm.ee
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    It irks me when rich people will just pay the fine rather than following the law. Example: Parking in handicap spots and not caring about a $250 fine. It is like paying $5 parking fee for low income drivers.

    Finland actually has speeding fines proportional to your income! In 2002, a Finnish millionaire was fined €103,000 (over $100,000 USD at the time) for going 75 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. (47mph in a 32mph zone)

    • @andros_rex@lemmy.world
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      11•1 month ago

      Like the Tesla in New York City which has racked up $38,000 worth of parking tickets?

    • @WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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      So if you are homeless, you can commit crimes for free?

      • @GaMEChld@lemmy.world
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        19•1 month ago

        Minimum sentencing.

      • @LeFantome@programming.dev
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        If you are homeless, it costs almost nothing to park your Tesla in the handicapped space. Huge loophole.

      • @silasmariner@programming.dev
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        4•1 month ago

        Depends on the crime, but there have always been shit laws nobody enforces

  • @MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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    51•1 month ago

    Come at me bro!

    Putin Trump bareback

    • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      23•1 month ago

      I can tell this is fake. Trump would have bigger moobs.

      • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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        8•1 month ago

        “My moobs are the biggest, most beautiful moobs in the world. Skinny Joe Biden wishes he had moobs like mine.”

        • @altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1•1 month ago

          I hate what you did and I like you.

      • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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        8•1 month ago

        The horse would also have snapped in half.

      • @MNByChoice@midwest.social
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        4•1 month ago

        Putins nipple shines through. Just just copied Putin’s body.

        • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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          3•1 month ago

          I noticed that, too.

          Also Trump’s unsprayed face is too healthy looking.

    • @altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7•1 month ago

      This one time Nazguls tried to look like humans.

  • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    Damn, from democracy to lèse-majesté in 100 months days, congrats guys!

    • @Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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      12•1 month ago

      Days*

      • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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        Oops, you’re right. 100 months will be the length of Trump’s second term.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍
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          Do you really think his body will hold out for that long?

          • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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            Have you seen how long a Big Mac stays intact when left on a countertop?

  • @Etterra@discuss.online
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    29•1 month ago

    I’ll say it until I’m dead: fines need to be calculated by income and net worth, increasing exponentially. The only way for a fine to act as a deterrent is for it to cost more relative to a person or company’s ability to pay it.

  • @9point6@lemmy.world
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    21•1 month ago

    And so, the era of the illegal meme dealer has begun

    About time

    • @BlueLineBae@midwest.social
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      10•1 month ago

      Pssssst… Hey buddy. You looking for some memes? I got the good stuff…

    • @frunch@lemmy.world
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      9•1 month ago

      shady guy opens trenchcoat

      “I got spicy, i got deep-fried, I’ve even got some rage comics if you’re old enough to remember em. $375 for a ½ gig, $700 for a full gig”

      • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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        5•1 month ago

  • @InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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    Disclaimer: Go fuck yourselves.

  • TrackinDaKraken
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    For the filthy rich, the ONLY penalty is very often a fine, and it’s a very small one proportionate to the profit they made from the crime. It’s the cost of doing business.

    The filthy rich only do jail time if they bilked other filthy rich people out of their money.

    • @skisnow@lemmy.ca
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      Rich people are far less likely to do time, because “the companies I own are responsible for other people’s livelihoods, you’d be punishing them as well” is generally accepted by most courts of law as a valid reason not to jail them. If they were less short-sighted they’d be treating the fact that the person had power and responsibilities as an aggravating circumstance and giving them longer sentences…

  • greenfire
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    base fines on income as Finland does for traffic violations

    • @klu9@lemmy.ca
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      The rich can always find ways around the law, including income-based fines. See the death of singer Kirsty McColl.

      • greenfire
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        They can afford the best/worst lawyers

    • @ryannathans@aussie.zone
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      What does the average traffic violation set back the average person in Finland?

      • greenfire
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        7•1 month ago

        depends on their income

        • @ryannathans@aussie.zone
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          average

        • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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          That’s not how averages work

      • @lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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        Few hundred euros if you’re minimum wage, IIRC

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    16•1 month ago

    Lol. Have fun trying to enforce that while real crimes are happening.

    Texas set to overtake Florida for America’s redheaded stepchild.

    • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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      18•1 month ago

      The trick is, they don’t really care about enforcing it - just having it as a potential charge to pursue when they hate someone.

      This just in: Breathing is illegal. They’ll only bother prosecuting critics of Trump though.

    • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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      9•1 month ago

      As always with these laws, they are a tool designed to be used selectively against someone you already decided you don’t like.

  • @LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works
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    Holy shit I didn’t know he was part of a gang

  • @Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    “herp derp jerb creators deserve to be above the law!”

    What our robber barons have convinced many to most Americans to believe to spin their greed disease into being somehow noble, and what those robber barons unreflectively believe about themselves.

    There are developed nations, which we most certainly are not, that literally prorate vehicular fines as a percentage of income. We would never do that here, because this shithole, including tens of millions of self-hating, deluded fools, believe the person that exploits thousands of laborers for private profit deserves to risk your life doing 90 on main street on the basis of their successful exploitation.

    https://www.mic.com/articles/79039/the-untold-story-of-alice-walton-s-dwi-incident

    • @BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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      The very definition of neo-liberalism: neo-feudalism. They can do whatever they want. Rules are for us, the serfs, not for them.

  • @xorollo@leminal.space
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    I thought that was some sort of weird cyberpunk monocle 🙀

  • @GhostPain@lemmy.world
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    Specific to the fine: unless it scales with net worth/income.

    Also, fuck Republicans.

    • @Wiz@midwest.social
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      I bet Trump has other people pay fines for him. “Take it out of the special Russian account.”

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