A Tennessee Republican hopes to establish an “abortion trafficking” felony for adults who help pregnant minors get an out-of-state abortion without parental permission, an effort reproductive health advocates argue will run afoul of constitutional rights such as interstate travel.

Rep. Jason Zachary, R-Knoxville, filed House Bill 1895 on Monday. The legislation would establish a new Class C felony, which could carry three to 15 years in prison, for an adult that “recruits, harbors or transports” a pregnant minor for the purposes of receiving an out-of-state abortion or for getting abortion medication.

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Cool

    When Lincoln and the traitors disagreed about why the civil war started (after it started) and we have actual proof from Lincoln saying he wasn’t interested in federally banning slavery …

    Why are you taking the words of the traitors over Lincoln?

    I thought the modern analogy would help, but I think it just confused you more unfortunately

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      I remember you from the last time this topic came up. Homie, I mean this as genuinely as possible, I’m honest to God trying to help; I think you should consider taking some communications or public speaking lessons or something. There’s a lot of good books or resources on YouTube on the matter if classes don’t make sense for you. You kind of just come across as a troll. Idk if that’s on purpose, but that’s why people react so badly to what you’re saying. It’s not your ideas, it’s you, it’s how you communicate.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Or…

        Maybe seeing people still falling for conservative propaganda from over a century ago is a little frustrating considering how conservative propaganda literally just resulted in another attempt at overthrowing the democratically elected government of America…

        Maybe, just maybe, some things are worth getting upset about

        • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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          I understand that it’s impossible to tell if someone is being genuine on the internet, so I’m begging you to break out Hanlon’s Razor and assume that I’m just stupid instead of malicious.

          Look, if you wanna be upset, by all means, knock yourself out, you’re going to unironically have a great time on the internet. If you want to do something productive and actually persuade people instead of just get worked up, then it would absolutely be worth your time to work on persuasive writing and speech.

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            It says a lot that your issue isn’t any of the people still falling for conservative propaganda…

            But that I’m not being persuasive enough, hell, if that’s your only problem, wouldn’t a better use of your time using your superior communication skills to help them understand?

            But I’ll never have to try and explain this to you again, if you don’t want to see my comments either, it’s a very simple process for you as well

            Takes less than a second

        • Sometimes a man’s character in an argument must be taken to account, depending on the context.

          Example: A Neo-Nazi arguing about racial science. I personally don’t think anyone should give that guy the time of day.

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            They shouldn’t give him the time of day because he’s WRONG, not because he’s a Nazi. … I know that’s a difficult sentence to parse because Nazis are wrong on basically everything, but it is VERY important.

            • But we’re saying he’s wrong because of his character and his character may inherently lead to some beliefs that are… incompatible with a sane society.

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                The point is, Nazis are bad because they logically and imperically think really fucking stupid things and want to do really bad things.

                It should not EVER matter what label someone attaches to themselves. It should only matter if what they want is backed by evidence and reality and ideally some compassion and grace. That simply is not true of Nazis. They’re bad because they’re stupid monsters who are wrong. It shouldn’t matter if they all start calling themselves activists or take over the Libertarian label. Their ideas and desires are wrong.