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This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥 to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 1 year ago

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This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥 to Political Memes@lemmy.world • 1 year ago
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  • @rsuri@lemmy.world
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    I don’t like Biden either, he’s done things that offend me too. But it doesn’t matter. Assuming Biden or Trump will win the general, then the only rational move is to pick one of them. Your vote can only make the difference between 1st and 2nd. You can’t make the 3rd place candidate jump to first, and you certainly can’t cause the winner to be nobody.

    If you wanna vote for a candidate who matches your priorities and convictions, the time for that is the primary stage. The general is too late for that. In fact, if Trump wins that’ll make it even harder for a more liberal candidate to win the next primary, because (as happened after 2016) a Trump victory will scare democratic voters into thinking they need to move to the center to stop the far-right.

    I know, American democracy is a big disgusting knot that makes you do things that feel dirty. But just pretend it’s a game, because that’s what it is. If you wanna win in the end, that means on each turn you move towards the least bad outcome.

    • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      If you wanna vote for a candidate who matches your priorities and convictions, the time for that is the primary stage

      Incorrect.

      DNC attorneys assert that the party has every right to favor one candidate or another, despite their party rules that state otherwise because, after all, they are a private corporation and they can change their rules if they want

      • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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        I legitimately can’t believe y’all are still doing this. Get new material.

        • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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          Only when there is better evidence that primaries are fair and relevant.

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/bernie-sanders-camp-fix-was-against-clinton-n817501

          • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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            0•1 year ago

            This is also why a no-name junior senator from Illinois also failed to beat Clinton in the primary, right? Because the DNC decided she should win?

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              That strawman argument is at the level of “I voted for a pigeon why isn’t he president”.

              We have email evidence in 2016 of a very popular primary candidate (Sanders) being plotted against by an organisation that is supposed to uphold democracy.

              A similar occurrence happened in 2020 when Sanders was up against Biden. Stalking horse candidates were used to soak up votes which were then pledged to Biden. He had no support without those votes.

              Saying that people have the option to choose a candidate at the primary stage is demonstrably false.

              • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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                And we have evidence that Sanders lost by 8M votes. Called an election. Move on. Or I guess keep denying the agency of millions of voters because your first baby crush candidate lost.

                • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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                  An excellent example of bias. Thanks!Sanders was 2M votes down when he withdrew, not 8M.

                  Biden was shown with Buttigieg’s, Klobuchar’s and bloomberg’s delegates, artificially increasing his lead.

                  Bloomberg didn’t meet the criteria to be present on the ballot, but the DNC ignored that because his delegate were earmarked for Biden.

                  And the media were unable to report without bias and misrepresentation

                  • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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                    2•1 year ago

                    Excellent example of several meritless conspiracy theories and sour grapes.

                    Which state ballot do you believe Bloomberg did not qualify for?

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