• notsure
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    123 months ago

    …yet i was told that the biden genocide was somehow worse…cake and eat it shit…

      • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        13 months ago

        I was told that protest voting would save Gaza

        Nothing was going to save Gaza. That didn’t mean we needed to continue being complicit. But at least centrists didn’t have to consider abandoning netanyahu.

      • @index@sh.itjust.works
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        Unsupporting the red and blue party is the correct thing to do and what will ultimately lead to a positive change. The duopoly party narrative is holding on a really thin line because everyone is unsatisfied on both sides, in europe third parties win plenty of times.

        If you throw your trash out of the window that isn’t going to change world pollution but you don’t do that because we live in a society and everyone is supposed to do his part.

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          The way US elections work it’s mathematically impossible to have a viable 3rd party. We can’t just do it like Europe.

    • @limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      33 months ago

      Biden’s help killed more at this time, but Trump should catch up by late summer or early autumn this year. Then we can say Trump killed more than Biden.

      But Trumps crimes elsewhere will eclipse this grim milestone , and I doubt most commentators here will remark on that when it happens

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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            13 months ago

            I have this idea for a site like a high score thing, where you could (with citations provided) the kill total of world leaders. See how Stalin, Hitler and Mao stack up to Nixon, Bush, Clinton and Trump.

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              23 months ago

              Where it gets difficult to estimate is when people die many years later from the effects.

              Even hurricanes are only recently understood to be a huge cause of mortality over a decade later. So where does one draw the line? When support structures in a society are destroyed by nature or man things happen years later.

              And then one had to decide how many a leader is directly responsible for, and how many subordinates acting on their own did.

    • @Deceptichum@quokk.au
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      What a strawman of an argument you’ve created. That was never an argument being made, it was that genocide wouldn’t be any worse because genocide is genocide.

      And how is this at all different from any of the strikes Biden agreed on that resulted in mass deaths?

      Oh and the cake you’re laughing about? Those are children’s lives. Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        63 months ago

        That was never an argument being made

        Bullshit. It was absolutely an argument being made. “We kNoW BiDeN sUpPoRtS gEnOcIde; MaYbE tRuMp WiLl Be BeTtEr” (paraphrased) is very much the sort of dumbass rhetoric that was being tossed around and don’t you dare try to gaslight me otherwise!

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          It’s more dumb to think killing everyone is any different to killing everyone.

          Genocide brings about the death of the whole cultural group.

          There is no little or big genocide, it is all genocide.

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            13 months ago

            Ok, then by your definition there hasn’t BEEN any genocide because they’re not literally all dead yet, so why are you complaining at all,

      • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        23 months ago

        Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.

        Centrists are stubbornly determined to move right from here. Introspection is a threat to that, so they won’t.