• Mammal
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    172 months ago

    How’s that been working out over the last 40+ years?

    • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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      32 months ago

      It hasn’t because most people haven’t been voting in primaries, which is why they’re saying to do it. It’s almost always old people voting in primaries and they choose their familiar name old person candidate and then we’re stuck with them.

      • Baron Von J
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        12 months ago

        The other half of it that everyone ignores is there actually has to be a better candidate campaigning for the nomination. Bernie lost the popular vote in the primaries, but inspired more progressives to campaign, and we got the squad out of it. People need to run, and people need to vote, or you get the status quo with donor-preferred candidates.

    • Baron Von J
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      -32 months ago

      Show me when a primary candidate won the popular vote and then wasn’t nominated.

      Just because you don’t like the outcome, doesn’t mean the process wasn’t followed.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        112 months ago

        Allegation: the DNC exhibited overt favoritism in the primary process to ensure Hillary won the primary.

        Your response: but Hillary won the primary, therefore she won the primary!

        No one is disputing that she won the primary. The problem was the DNC put their thumb on the scale through the entire process. Hillary was the presumptive nominee from the beginning. People voting for Bernie on day one had to vote against headlines that said, “Hillary is already 1/3 of the way to getting the nomination!” The DNC also collaborated very closely with the Hillary campaign, and they did not do so with Bernie’s campaign. They even went so far as feeding her debate questions ahead of time.

        Yes, obviously Hillary actually won the primary even without the superdelegates. Any brain-dead moron can consult wikipedia and see that. There’s no need to parrot the obvious. But you’re completely missing the core of the issue - that Hillary only won the majority of non-superdelegates and only won the primary popular vote because the DNC threw the weight of the entire party behind her nomination at the exclusion of all other candidates.

        • Baron Von J
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          Allegation: the DNC exhibited overt favoritism in the primary process to ensure Hillary won the primary. Your response: but Hillary won the primary, therefore she won the primary!

          I’ve never argued that the DNC hasn’t played favorites or that the primaries are all totally fair and equitable. My point is always that the only way to get the nomination is by winning the popular vote, because a lot of people seem to think that it wouldn’t matter and someone else would be nominated anyway. We certainly won’t win by sitting out the vote, because all they’ve learned from that is they don’t have to campaign for your vote to win. Third party and Independent legislators hold fewer than 1% of the legislative seats at the state and federal level, so that’s not a viable option. The only thing we have is to all just fucking show up and vote.