not my job and this is not the place to waste my time providing a textbook-level of evidence of what you could have researched yourself if you were willing to be persuaded, but ask your History teacher if you’re seriously asking.
The Roman salute has not origin in ancient history.
It was formalized by Gabriele D’Annunzio, a sick fascist poet and writer, as a salute for his proto-fascist troops with which he occupied Fiume in modern-day Croatia, having been inspired this painting.
So yea, the roman salute is a fascist salute, invented by a fascist, for a fascist occurrence and to call it roman is a disservice to Rome and history in general.
Some people wouldn’t know a Nazi if he was sending people to camps without trial, trying to outlaw the political opposition, fomenting a cult of personality, launching coups, oppressing the most vulnerable people, ratcheting up racist attacks, and threatening to attack Denmark.
As a serious answer, Musk is into modern variants of eugenics and some scary techno-authoritarian stuff he shares with Peter Theil and other Silicon Valley royalty.
Maybe he’s a techno-neonazi? That’s just semantics.
His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring. But “Nazi” is an reasonable enough descriptor for his beliefs.
Note how Jin, the Nazi Defender (not a Nazi themselves, they just defend people who are justifiably called Nazis) won’t respond to your answer.
One feature from Reddit I liked was the ability to tag people. Or maybe that was the reddit enhancement suite. But Jin would’ve earned himself a big red “Nazi Defender” tag.
No, that is not how words or logic or anything really works. But it is unsurprising that a fascist like you wouldn’t know that, considering you don’t really care about words.
Yes notice the crisp snappy way waltz did it? With fingers together, and twice so there is no way to doubt what it was? Ohhh wait sorry that was elons.
…he just wanted to send out a message of hope and support to nazis round the world by siegheiling twice on stage behind the seal of the United States…yeah…
It has. Completely. Basically what it means today is “people who disagree with me” and should be regarded as such. Unfortunately the actual nazis will fly under the radar now.
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If you perform a Nazi salute, you’re a Nazi.
Musk performed TWO Nazi salutes on national television during a presidential inauguration.
Musk owns X.
Anymore questions? Do I need to illustrate with crayons?
Tim Waltz, one of the people vigorously calling Musk a Nazi for doing that action, is on video doing the exact same “salute”:
https://youtu.be/XteSVPzL3fk
You’ll agree Tim Waltz is a Nazi, I assume?
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There’s plenty:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/03/13/musk-retweets-hitler-didnt-murder-millions-message-amid-ongoing-nazi-controversy/
But this is the most I am willing to engage at the moment with an obvious troll
not my job and this is not the place to waste my time providing a textbook-level of evidence of what you could have researched yourself if you were willing to be persuaded, but ask your History teacher if you’re seriously asking.
If you can’t answer him that’s all you have to say.
Don’t do this rigamarole of “do your own research to justify why other people use their words.”
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Here’s a question: why don’t you take their advice seriously instead of being so sensitive to their manners?
Italian here, Roman actually.
The Roman salute has not origin in ancient history.
It was formalized by Gabriele D’Annunzio, a sick fascist poet and writer, as a salute for his proto-fascist troops with which he occupied Fiume in modern-day Croatia, having been inspired this painting.
So yea, the roman salute is a fascist salute, invented by a fascist, for a fascist occurrence and to call it roman is a disservice to Rome and history in general.
Some people wouldn’t know a Nazi if he was sending people to camps without trial, trying to outlaw the political opposition, fomenting a cult of personality, launching coups, oppressing the most vulnerable people, ratcheting up racist attacks, and threatening to attack Denmark.
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He’s certainly a fascist autocrat
I believe he likes to be called Winnie
As a serious answer, Musk is into modern variants of eugenics and some scary techno-authoritarian stuff he shares with Peter Theil and other Silicon Valley royalty.
Maybe he’s a techno-neonazi? That’s just semantics.
His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring. But “Nazi” is an reasonable enough descriptor for his beliefs.
Note how Jin, the Nazi Defender (not a Nazi themselves, they just defend people who are justifiably called Nazis) won’t respond to your answer.
One feature from Reddit I liked was the ability to tag people. Or maybe that was the reddit enhancement suite. But Jin would’ve earned himself a big red “Nazi Defender” tag.
Nah its much simpler label than that.
“Troll”
The topic doesn’t matter, it more about fishing for provocation. In this case I couldn’t help myself, but… you know, don’t feed the trolls.
you can also tag people on Lemmy, or at least I can. look for the About User menu then “Add Tag” or “Tag user” from their profile
Hmm… I definitely don’t see an About user menu or Add Tag or Tag User on their profile. Maybe it has something to do with your lemmy browser.
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That must be specific to whatever app you are using. It isn’t in the default ones.
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Tim Waltz did the exact same salute btw. The same Tim Waltz that says that Trump 100% did a nazi salute. I guess Tim Waltz is a Nazi too.
https://youtu.be/XteSVPzL3fk
Here’s the full, non cropped video. It’s around the 1:51 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/live/2wU99gDi_M8
It’s not around the 1:15 mark, it’s around the 2min mark. Same “salute” as Musk.
It really isn’t. It’s not even close. You said I had gold medal mental gymnastics, but you’ve just done another gold medal performance.
E: but thank you for pointing out my typo
His gesture is as much of a “Nazi salute” as Elon Musks. They’re either both Nazi salutes, or neither are. No other option.
No, they are nothing alike, at all.
You: "either everything is “A” or everything is “B”, there is no alternatives.
See how silly that is?
By “everything” you mean “these 2 specific examples”, don’t you?
No, that is not how words or logic or anything really works. But it is unsurprising that a fascist like you wouldn’t know that, considering you don’t really care about words.
🤣 I like how you guys think people care when you call them fascists, Nazis, etc.
One of these things is not like the other
Tim Waltz does not have eugenics-adjacent beliefs.
Also, I think you may have misinterpreted what “red herring” means.
I didn’t misinterpret that, I was simply pointing out that it wasn’t a nazi salute unless you also think Tim Waltz is a nazi.
Yes notice the crisp snappy way waltz did it? With fingers together, and twice so there is no way to doubt what it was? Ohhh wait sorry that was elons.
Yeah, elon’s not a nazi…
…he just wanted to send out a message of hope and support to nazis round the world by siegheiling twice on stage behind the seal of the United States…yeah…
All the nazis saw it as a nazi salute too! They were chuffed! Let’s not ignore his love and support for the afd, and antisemites on Twitter!
hahahaha the mental gymnastics is gold medal worthy.
Yes, the way you say two, very very different things are the same is certainly gold medal worthy mental gymnastics. Well said.
Yes, you are indeed a real spectacle.
And you are bringing up a red herring (salutes) that doesn’t matter, because, well, I don’t know. But that’s the whole point of the saying.
It is funny how the video clearly disproves your lying claim.
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*neo-nazi
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It has. Completely. Basically what it means today is “people who disagree with me” and should be regarded as such. Unfortunately the actual nazis will fly under the radar now.
The word ‘nazi’ has 100% lost its meaning.
Might as well just be saying “I don’t like this person or group of people because they disagree with me.”
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I guess we can start adding ‘nazi sympathizer’ to the list of terms that have lost their meaning.
Remember, you only have people like yourself to blame.
Dude, Musk literally thinks he has superior genes. The fuck are you high on?