So it was 30 years ago. I feel like, even though things are far from perfect now, nowadays a comment like this would draw quite a few more critical looks than back then.
And he’s fucking everyone instead of just black people. We had a DEI program to rollback again. If someone calls me the n-word, I can post that on Tiktok and have a 50 40% chance of getting them fired.
Shit’s bad but shit’s almost always been bad for black people in America, so you mark the little peaks.
No, sorry. Go watch any sitcom from the nineties. There is a lot of stuff in there (racism, sexism, homophobia) that would cause a shitstorm these days.
Maybe you lived in a progressive bubble back then (good for you) but as someone born in the nineties who grew up in the early 00s, I have to say, ignorance was a lot more tolerated back then, even in the 00s.
So you’re looking at an era that you probably don’t remember actively being a part of, and you compare it to the world you do remember. I don’t think I was the one to live in a bubble*. Also, have you seen Musk do the Hitler salute on television? Nobody tried pulling shit like that in 1994.
*I lived, and still live, in a very rural area, which is not know for being progressive.
Cleopatra was by ancestry mostly Greek. So I don’t get what you mean.
Most of her subjects weren’t quite “black” either.
Sorry for this interjection, but I hate wrong corrections, especially when they give up cute chains of thought like “queen of (hellenistic, that’s my own addition) Egypt -> Egypt’s in the African continent -> black”.
Yeah, the thing a lot of people seem to miss is just how major of a geographic barrier the Sahara is. As a consequence, northern Africans weren’t generally very black for most of history.
It’s such an insane story that I wonder what the other side of it is. It’s easy to imagine the guy just having got out of a meeting ten minutes earlier with “if you don’t get Julia Roberts into a movie by the end of the week, I’ll see you never work in this town again!” ringing in his ears.
Oh god, it’s real.
So it was 30 years ago. I feel like, even though things are far from perfect now, nowadays a comment like this would draw quite a few more critical looks than back then.
People in 1994 knew exactly how fucked this was.
Sure, but knowing how fucked something is and actually speaking out about it are two very different things.
It was also 30 years closer to Harriet Tubman, in a time when black civil rights were not even as sanded smooth as they appear now.
Bruh we’ve got a Nazi president
And he’s fucking everyone instead of just black people. We had a DEI program to rollback again. If someone calls me the n-word, I can post that on Tiktok and have a
5040% chance of getting them fired.Shit’s bad but shit’s almost always been bad for black people in America, so you mark the little peaks.
Why would you think that? I was around in 1994, and if anything, it got worse.
100%.
No, sorry. Go watch any sitcom from the nineties. There is a lot of stuff in there (racism, sexism, homophobia) that would cause a shitstorm these days.
Maybe you lived in a progressive bubble back then (good for you) but as someone born in the nineties who grew up in the early 00s, I have to say, ignorance was a lot more tolerated back then, even in the 00s.
So you’re looking at an era that you probably don’t remember actively being a part of, and you compare it to the world you do remember. I don’t think I was the one to live in a bubble*. Also, have you seen Musk do the Hitler salute on television? Nobody tried pulling shit like that in 1994.
*I lived, and still live, in a very rural area, which is not know for being progressive.
Look up who Alec McGuiness played in Lawrence of Arabia.
Or look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Or Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra. Or John Wayne in Gengis Khan.
Cleopatra was by ancestry mostly Greek. So I don’t get what you mean.
Most of her subjects weren’t quite “black” either.
Sorry for this interjection, but I hate wrong corrections, especially when they give up cute chains of thought like “queen of (hellenistic, that’s my own addition) Egypt -> Egypt’s in the African continent -> black”.
Yeah, the thing a lot of people seem to miss is just how major of a geographic barrier the Sahara is. As a consequence, northern Africans weren’t generally very black for most of history.
I never said she should’ve been black. But some milktoast British lady is still several shades lighter than any Egyptian in history.
Greek and ME people sometimes look very light. And face powders too exist.
So I wouldn’t say there’s anything too weird with her appearance. I suppose portrayal of Americans in North Korean war films is weirder.
Or Emma Stone in Aloha, or Max Minghella in The Social Network, or Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange.
It’s such an insane story that I wonder what the other side of it is. It’s easy to imagine the guy just having got out of a meeting ten minutes earlier with “if you don’t get Julia Roberts into a movie by the end of the week, I’ll see you never work in this town again!” ringing in his ears.