Not really on the verge, many of them have been justifying the invasion because of neozasim in Ukraine, which is indeed a problem, but Russian born Putinesque neofascism is probably not the cure for it.
I don’t understand how the fact that those neo-Nazis gained popularity in the current war, makes the previous comment, that negates the existence of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, correct.
Yeah they would say that not only is Ukraine a puppet of American imperialism but it is also full of literal Nazis who infiltrated the Ukrainian government and military about 8 years ago.
Did they not force the president at the time to resign? It’d be like Jan 6th forcing Biden to not take office. I’m genuinely interested to know what the difference is. It can be considered just, but it doesn’t seem inaccurate to call it a coup. Please educate me.
It’d be like Jan 6th forcing Biden to not take office.
Not quite, because only a very small minority of americans wanted this to happen. In Ukraine, the forces against Yanukovich’s rule were democratic in nature, and were backed by massive protests that Yanukovich tried to suppress violently. I would call it a revolution.
I think they are just trolls. Hexbear has a community called “The Dunk Tank” where they proudly announce when they successfully “dunked” on someone, also known as arguing in bad faith with prejudicial hostility and no will to listen until the other side gives up and leaves. They mark that as a win in their book and applaud to it.
They are definitely not trolls, they are just viewing everything through the lens of capitalism-bad, communism-good. Their opinions are formed by a different understanding of world events and history, which they would say is more accurate and complete, but which the US/Europe calls disinformation. We are on opposite sides of disinformation campaigns than each other which is why it seems like trolling.
If you think the reputation doesn’t apply to you, personally, then it’s trivial to move to a different Lemmy server. It’s not some immutable characteristic of your being.
I registered on this server 2 years ago and I should move to another server because some people think that this server is for people who support Russia? It’s bullshit. It was a leftist server some time ago, but now it’s a general purpose server. Also leftists != support Russia.
Anyway, we shouldn’t go in comments and say that people from X are jerks.
Hexbear and .ml covering their ears and yelling “lalalalala”
Nah, Hexbear is cheering the genocide on. They’re mask-off at this point.
Look at lemmy.ml and they’re on the verge of calling zelensky himself a nazi.
Accusing a Jew of being a nazi. I don’t even know what to say…
To be fair, it wouldn’t be unprecedented .
Not really on the verge, many of them have been justifying the invasion because of neozasim in Ukraine, which is indeed a problem, but Russian born Putinesque neofascism is probably not the cure for it.
Just so you understand, there has never even been neo-Nazism in Ukraine. And there was no “problem”; this problem was artificially spread by Russia.
What do you think about that ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade#Neo-Nazism
These guys rose in popularity because they fought against Russian-backed rebel groups better, so in a sense previous comment is right
I don’t understand how the fact that those neo-Nazis gained popularity in the current war, makes the previous comment, that negates the existence of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, correct.
If your enemy is a Jew and you hate Jews just call them self hating! Easy!
Weird that that’s getting downvotes. Especially when that’s the official Russian position.
It’s not only the official position of Russia, it’s the standard operating procedure for all kinds of people.
And they ban you for Calli it a genocide.
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Always ridiculous takes from lemmygrad users. I see a lot from kbin as well, but I’m assuming selection bias or something
I’m pretty sure they would say that ukraine shouldn’t exsist anyway because the US propaganda is taking over them or whatever.
Yeah they would say that not only is Ukraine a puppet of American imperialism but it is also full of literal Nazis who infiltrated the Ukrainian government and military about 8 years ago.
“Euromaidan was a coup” they seriously claim, and add a quote from Mersheimer.
Did they not force the president at the time to resign? It’d be like Jan 6th forcing Biden to not take office. I’m genuinely interested to know what the difference is. It can be considered just, but it doesn’t seem inaccurate to call it a coup. Please educate me.
Not quite, because only a very small minority of americans wanted this to happen. In Ukraine, the forces against Yanukovich’s rule were democratic in nature, and were backed by massive protests that Yanukovich tried to suppress violently. I would call it a revolution.
Ah, so it was a democratic coup. I see.
Yes, a revolution. That’s not at all what tankies are implying when they claim it’s a coup, and I’m sure you know it.
I don’t understand, are the people on these servers kremlin bots or are they really that stupid?
I think they are just trolls. Hexbear has a community called “The Dunk Tank” where they proudly announce when they successfully “dunked” on someone, also known as arguing in bad faith with prejudicial hostility and no will to listen until the other side gives up and leaves. They mark that as a win in their book and applaud to it.
It’s like they’re completely new to the internet. Who does this anymore?
They are definitely not trolls, they are just viewing everything through the lens of capitalism-bad, communism-good. Their opinions are formed by a different understanding of world events and history, which they would say is more accurate and complete, but which the US/Europe calls disinformation. We are on opposite sides of disinformation campaigns than each other which is why it seems like trolling.
They make it thier whole identity
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Hexbear cheers for both Russia and Hamas
How?
America bad, therefore any possible challenge to American hegemony good, even if it’s literal fascists.
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Ohmygod one person said something about me. Quick defed from the entire instance!!
Nah it’s been nearly constantly and consistently bad quality posts and toxicity from that instance.
Unlike all of your “quality posts” and no toxicity, huh? Lmao.
Block what you don’t like buddy. Don’t impose your censorship on everyone else.
God I hope none of yall ever defed. So funny watching the immediate tribalism form.
It wasnt ever reddit, or twitter, huh? Its always just us.
Why are tankies so fragile?
I found this offensive. Not all people on my instance think what you think.
lemm.ee have “no bigotry” rule, but why offend other instances is okay?
If you think the reputation doesn’t apply to you, personally, then it’s trivial to move to a different Lemmy server. It’s not some immutable characteristic of your being.
I registered on this server 2 years ago and I should move to another server because some people think that this server is for people who support Russia? It’s bullshit. It was a leftist server some time ago, but now it’s a general purpose server. Also leftists != support Russia.
Anyway, we shouldn’t go in comments and say that people from X are jerks.
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Thinking about someone means they’ve got ya!
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Blame yourself, that’s the implication of your comment.
The lack of self awareness…
What the hell did you mean by “rent free” if it wasn’t “the dumbest thing you’ll read all day”?