• @MisterD@lemmy.ca
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        Correct. He is the distraction. DOGE and the cabinet billionaires are doing the heavy lifting of p2025

        • @itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com
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          The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. -HHGTTG

          Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. - Douglas Adams

  • @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Democrats when they win an election: Wahhhh we dont have a congressional majority :c

    Republicans when they win an election: FUCK LEGAL PRECEDENT I AM MORE POWERFUL THEN THE COURTS AND GOD, I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO GETS IN MY WAY

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      Democrats when they win an election: Wahhhh we dont have a congressional majority :c

      Republicans when they win an election: FUCK LEGAL PRECEDENT I AM MORE POWERFUL THEN THE COURTS AND GOD, I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO GETS IN MY WAY

      May I steal this for the body of an image to post on !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com?

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      Democrats when elected: okay but we only had all three branches of government for two years and Joe Lieberman was kinda mean :(

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        “Why do you dislike us? Our last major victory was a watered down bill by conservative think tanks 15 years ago! We can do more! …We just never wanna.”

      • Oh absolutely, if the conservatives want to play dirty I say we play just as dirty. Hell lets go lower, we the workers should do absolutely everything in our power to destroy tyranny.

        DEATH TO THE TYRANTS

      • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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        We haven’t been a democracy with laws since Bush stole the 2000 election and lied to the world to murder a million Iraqis.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      Democrats when they win an election: Wahhhh we dont have a congressional majority :c

      … because they didn’t.

      Republicans when they win an election: FUCK LEGAL PRECEDENT I AM MORE POWERFUL THEN THE COURTS AND GOD, I WILL MURDER ANYONE WHO GETS IN MY WAY

      … because they HAD the majority. And they stacked the Judicial.

      How is this hard to understand?

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        … because they didn’t.

        …and when they do, it becomes because they don’t have a large enough majority. If they had a filibuster -peoof majority, it would be because they don’t have a veto-proof majority even if they also held the executive.

        To put it another way, Biden had the power to fully legalize marijuana at any time because drug scheduled can be changed by process from either the legislative or executive branches. Instead he had it rescheduled. Because Dems only operate in half measures federally, because they are controlled opposition.

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          To put it another way, Biden had the power to fully legalize marijuana at any time because drug scheduled can be changed by process from either the legislative or executive branches. Instead he had it rescheduled. Because Dems only operate in half measures federally, because they are controlled opposition.

          He didn’t even do that. He asked the DEA to do it, but they never moved the needle on it. It’s still as illegal as it was in 2020, federally speaking.

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            You’re right, it’s currently still hung up in procedure. Even then, he could have ordered his DEA to deschedule it, and instead had them do what they’ve done. He also waited long enough that when it happens, Trump will get the credit despite having had nothing to do with the process.

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              Yup, student loan debt is another, he had the power to completely wipe it away, I can guarantee that would have lead an electoral landslide for democrats.

              But he chose not to 🤷‍♂️ he did fight for it a small bit, but like most things dems do, it was half assed at best.

      • @LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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        They distinctly did under Obama and in the first two years of Biden. They just complained and fucked up

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    yup. we told you so. and i hate saying this.

    the worst part is that we, in the third world, are going to suffer worse than you.

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      Lemmy.ml

      You fuckers were rooting for it bozo you think everyone else has amensia?

        • Doom
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          Lmfao go piss yourself to death my guy lemmy.ml is bullshit and so are you now kindly shit off and go blow your mother

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    the part that pisses me off the most about this is that the democrats all read the thrice-damned playbook.

    Like. WHY THE FUCK DO THEY NOT HAVE A PLAN?!

    oh. that and the fucking nazis are winning.

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      That’s genuinely the most sanity-destroying part of this for me.

      They made a playbook years ago. They said they made it. The posted it openly on the internet years ago. They said they’d follow the playbook. They’re now following the playbook. They’re continuing to follow the playbook. They are completing entire sections of the playbook, according to what was written in the playbook. They will continue to follow the playbook.

      This is not a surprise. You are not allowed to be surprised by this. Fucking stop it.

      And yet: all the Democratic leadership and rank-and-file - save for a very small handful of progressives - are all in a constant state of shock and surprise. What the absolute fuck. How. HOW.

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        and more infuriating- they ran on “WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS”.

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            “We can’t remove the filibuster… what if we need it?!”…

            (Some time later, when it’s needed…)

            “Best we can do is…. NOTHING

            • Cluck-Cluck Chuck
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      Oh, they have a plan. It’s in the half-dozen fundraising texts I get every day. Trump is clearly good for democrats’ business and it makes me sick.

      • @kautau@lemmy.world
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        If you think the collapse of the American government is only bad for America, that’s a dumb take. Surely the oligarchy is to blame.

        The plan to take it down was in place for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

        But it will definitely harm millions of non-americans, and empower far-right groups globally, and likely ignite WWIII, perhaps before or after an internal civil war.

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            millions will starve in developing nations and 100s of thousands more will die from preventable diseases.

            It’s also literally in-line with the faux-left accelerationists’ dogma:

            Phase 1 - Make the world worse by helping the far-Right take over governments. This will lead to increased suffering domestically and internationally. Phase 2 - ? Phase 3 - Working class solidarity and uprising resulting in socialist utopia.

            (Phase 2, historically, likely involves either a few centuries of oppression, and/or global armed conflict and genocide, but that’s a sacrifice that they’re willing to make.)

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      Democrats aren’t revolutionaries. They’re legislators. Most of them didn’t sign up for this but for normal work.

      It does mean we have the wrong people in office when we need fighters, but I don’t see how you can throw all the blame on them.

      They’re the ones who are afraid of going to Gitmo, assuming they aren’t otherwise disappeared.

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        this is what they ran on to stop, at least in part.

        more over, I didn’t sign up for this shit either. If they don’t start doing their job, we will be going to a civil war- a civil war that will make the last one look like a block party.

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          That’s all fair. I’m not at all satisfied with their performance, just not surprised. Legislators don’t know how to respond to the Gish Gallop, especially when it’s taken the top offices.

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            I guess the biggest issue I have is when legislators are whining about it.

            “Well I didn’t sign up for this!”

            Except you kinda did. and the time to act was over the last four and a quarter years… with the whole apparently lacking an understand of where it’s going.

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        What will it take to supplant them and take control of the party or delegitimize them as a viable 2nd party in the awful two party system and replace the party with something progressive that represents workers other than more of the same?

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          I don’t see a voting way out of this, sadly.

          So if it’s a revolution, and we win, we then get to institute different rules that don’t lead to the inevitable two party domination.

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      After having given a speech to it’s creators about it, calling it a “plan for our movement”, yes. There is video available.

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        Eh. We’ve just bought ourselves a decade or two of industrialized warfare and martial law by the looks of things. That will have to be survived first.

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      The last time the Democrats had a coherent plan for when they got into office was 1930

      They have a coherent plan every year, it is to do whatever their masters tell them to do. Both parties have the same masters

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        To me, it looks like the PayPal Mafia is trying to become the new masters, taking power away from the old families who held it since… Well since they made their fortunes on slavery.

        I am not saying one side is in any way morally better, they’ve been draining society det for decades, but at least they weren’t actively trying to dismantle democracy or whatever.

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    Milton Mayer. They thought they were free. I would recommend this book. It documented everyday Germans who joined the Nazis. I see pretty much every single parallel to America today. We’re all the same people. Nothing exceptional about the US. We’re all susceptible.

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        Most people vote Conservative because they are afraid, and are drawn to leaders that seem strong, powerful, and promise to destroy or protect them from the things they fear.

        They might’ve been dumb enough to be tricked. Now they’re too afraid to admit they were. They’re in too deep, and they’d have to sacrifice standing, community, stability, and their understanding of their place in the world if they were to admit they were wrong.

        That’s too scary. Most of them aren’t too dumb to understand, they’re convincing themselves because the alternative is too horrible for them to admit.

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    I’ve been checking this site on and off from Europe for about a month. Can someone who knows more than me explain the expected timeline for what remains?

    I feel like it jumped up into the mid 30%s after only a month or so and then stagnated for weeks.

    Now it seems to have jumped again. But I guess I’m wondering at what sort of percentage does everything go to shit (not that it isn’t already!). Are there points where there is a no turning back or civil war becomes inevitable, etc.? Or does it hit a certain percentage where it will jump to 100% overnight due to certain protections being removed.

    I guess I’m struggling to wrap my head around what I’m seeing, what it looks like between 40% and 100% and how quickly this might happen?

    Even a guide somewhere on the net that breaks it down would be great.

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      It’s early 1933 right now. The nazis were elected, they’ve set the dismantling of the state into motion, and most of their opponents still think that the rule of law is technically still valid. It’ll just take time for the courts to do their thing.

      The next step will be the Reichstag fire. So it might look like not a lot is getting worse for a few months, then one morning you might wake up, the news are talking about a terror attack allegedly done by an illegal immigrant, and any remaining pretense of democracy is simply wiped away by another “Executive Order” declaring an emergency, giving ICE authority to deal with “citizens aiding criminal aliens”, deputizing thousands into ICE, …

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        I think the hesitancy on protests is that they’ve been wholly ineffective in the last decade of fighting against trump.

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            Occupy wallstreet. It was actually 100% correct on who the villains were, had an amazing amount of coverage and reach, was publicly terrorized by police on television in prime time, and what came of it?

            Nothing. Nothing came of it.

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    Why are the American people so …weak?

    In another month, Americans will have non ability to mobilize and fight the Dictatorship that is almost fully installed.

    Meanwhile, Americans upvote FB crap thinking that does something.

    Losers. All of them.

    Talking for decades about how special they are. How free. How they stand against tyranny.

    Laugh My Fucking Ass Off!

    Heil Trump.

    Americans are ENEMIES of freedom now.

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      The problem is, I don’t show up to work because I’m protesting, my child loses their home. And THAT’s why countries are pushing birth rates . I’d love to be out there, doing something, like I spent summers protesting shit George Bush was doing, or during trumps first term. But I don’t know how to do it now without losing everything.

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        I think that if the Good Guys replace Nazi America with something new, they should engineer a new economic system where everybody’s survival is guaranteed. If you have basic but genuine shelter, food, utilities, and so forth to rely upon, you can go out to protest or strike without worrying much about your wellbeing.

        The current economy might as well be willfully designed to keep an economic boot on our necks. We can’t afford the time, risk, or afford travel to do what is right. We should make money not used for survival, instead making it solely for buying luxury goods - a fancy car that isn’t government issue, meals that aren’t Generic Corn Flakes #1, and so forth.

        Capitalism is good for supplying the demand for things that align with a person’s hobbies and interests, but is utterly worthless when it comes to survival. We should fix that, by ensuring that billionaires cannot exist, and use their freed capital to fund a genuine UBI for all.

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        As far as fucking off from work and being able to return without question: FMLA

        But that still requires savings to eat/pay bills.

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          They’ve been raising the heat in the pot for decades. Some of us have been paying attention, but we typically get called “sensationalist” or “alarmist”. They’ve started calling us “an tea fuh” and “unAmerican” now. Camps will probably come at some point.

          Incrementalism was the death knell of this country. We’re just hearing the death rattle now.

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            Man in the 2000s it was straight up “Extremist”, “Traitor”, “snowflake.”

            That’s what so frustrating to see what OP said. That, plus gerrymandering, citizens United, and voter suppression. The GOP has been dismantling the Republic for longer than I’ve been alive.

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      Let me ask you this:

      How am I supposed to organize a mobilization of people in a country that is 2,800 miles (4506km) east to west and 1660 miles (2671km) north to south? How do I communicate where to meet up? How do I ensure our targets don’t get wind of it? How do I ensure everyone is there? How do I make sure we get every leader that is going to need to be ousted? How do I ensure they’re even going to be there? How do we find all of the money backers that want this crap? How do we decide who should lead this new leadership chain without starting another fight? How do we ensure that the military doesn’t just mow us down when we try? If I can’t lead this charge, who does? How do I find someone willing, and is actually capable of leading this charge? How do I ensure I don’t just have some trigger happy yahoos that will shoot anything remotely a target before anything starts? How do I ensure we don’t have bad actor there to tank it all (and there are plenty)?

      Look, I see what you’re saying. I’m pissed off. This isn’t supposed to be the country I was raised in. It had many issues. This isn’t the country that I raised my hand to fuck my body up for.

      I’d love to pick up my weapons, drive the 2 weeks across the country, and do something about it all. I have kids. I know, I know, what the future holds for them is much worse than homelessness. That is still a rough pill to swallow. I’m a frog on a hot plate. That hot plate is thousands of miles across to get off. It is surrounded by 100’s of other hot plates that have to be dealt with to stop the heat. Some of which I wouldn’t even be able to find, or would be constantly moving around with the capability I have to mobilize (jet vs driving).

      Do I flee the country? Do I stay and fight back the best I can? I can’t flee. I can’t work due to severe medical issues (another rub in this entire thing, how do I ensure everyone is able bodied enough to help). No one is going to take me in. The best I can do is arm and stock like I should be wearing tin foil on my head. Try to be as self sustaining as we can. A garden. Some chickens that will end up having to be guarded by Brinks soon. Then vote for the shit sandwich that doesn’t have glass in it and is covered in barbed wire. Try to help my kids see why this is all bad. To differentiate good sources and bad sources of information. Weed out logical fallacies. Pick out gas lighting. Try to prepare them for a better future that opens more options for them. One that allows them to leave the country if needed. How to participate and make things better, and why they should participate in voting and other such things.

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        Well said. It really seems that a lot of people are finding out how much easier to say things from afar, then would be to say those same things up close.

        Weirdly, I’d bet that if you drew a radius with America being ground zero, you’d find that the further away you got- the easier people would think it should be to fix everything.

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            People can be divided into two groups on the subject:

            One consists of people who have incredibly short attention spans,

            …and the other- people that think their country is the only one that exists.

            My comment could be said for any one belonging to either of these two groups. The geography location of their ignorance is irrelevant.

    • @7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Honestly… Education and social engineering. The majority of the folks here read at a 6th grade level. Their comprehension of complex social situations is nill. They can’t fathom the difference between a million and a billion. Those numbers get tossed around so easily and commonly that it just washes over them like they mean nothing.

      Our information flow is controlled. All sources of common easily found news comes from 4 or 5 oligarchs.

      The boomer generation is the “soft men” generation. They hit the sweet spot for money generation, freak sex with no consequences, drug use with out worry of dying, housing that cost a lot, but was obtainable on a single salary and an education system that was paid for by the 90% tax in the Ulta wealthy and corporations.

      The shining beacon on the hill, the USA that the WW1 and WW2 generations built was slowly destroyed by elected officials who were being paid by the wealthy and corporations.

      All of that manipulation accelerated when citizens United was passed.

      So now we have a generation of folks that have never had to fight in a war on their own soil. A belief system that we are better than everyone else and that our checks and balances will hold against a coordinated effort to dismantle the government. And a population that only cares if their teams win…

      So it’ll probably take 15 years before we get our heads out of our asses unless something drastic happens to collectively wake us all up. :/

      Hopefully all that makes sense… I’m on mobile and I don’t have my glasses. Haha

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      Why are the American people so …weak?
      In another month, Americans will have non ability to mobilize and fight the Dictatorship that is almost fully installed.

      The exact same thing happened in Germany in 1933. This is the exact same playbook: way too many people are willing to accept a little fascism because the fascist promises to drop the price of groceries and target groups of people they don’t belong to. Then the fascist doesn’t drop the price of groceries and turns against those who supported him - by which point, it’s too late.

      What you’ve just discovered is that today’s Americans as just as dumb as the Germans of 92 years ago - dumber in fact, because they knew what happened in Nazi Germany, an advantage the Germans who trusted Hitler didn’t have.

      The Americans should’ve known better, and yet they voted the orange fascist in. Plus ca change…

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      Dunno… brexit sucked and from here- a lot of people that probably could have stopped it seemed pretty weak. Not the same, I get it- but if you can answer one, you might understand the other.

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    This is not serious. There are many more objectives in project 2025 that are not listed there and have not been anccomplished; therefore artificially increase the completion percentage.

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    I don’t know what project 2025 is. Only thing I know is that for months people said it’s stupid. No one ever said why.

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          You never felt like googling and doing a bit if research?

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            Seriously this is why the left fails.

            Image you have at your hands research that shows the majority of people do not read or Google.

            The right generates content based on the knowledge their base isn’t reading content if it takes more than a few minutes. This content comes off as over simplified but effective and everyone sees it. The left generates no content and instead spend all their time telling each other the right are idiots based on how simple the content they’re seeing is.

            You can say “did you Google it” all you want. Factually I’ll tell you, no. And until you realize this, have fun with a Republicans destroying shit while you smuggly ask if people are googling stuff and calling them idiots.

            Was there something that should have been brought to everyone’s attention? Did anyone Google it outside a few circles you’re in? If you went outside and asked people what project 2025 was at your coffee shop would they know? Would they Google it? But I bet they would have opinions on whatever the Republicans are bringing up this week.

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      Perhaps, the bare minimum of effort instead of waiting for it to be hand-fed to you?

      This kind of apathy is why Trump won.

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        Cool cool cool

        Just making the point that the fact that is lost to people on the left is why Trump won. Like how you all come up with insults like Vichy. There are many reasons why Trump lost and a lot of it comes to the left will not adapt or learn why they failed.

        So glad you realized what I was getting at. That’s the point. The right shit posted trump into the white house while the left couldn’t bother to download a single photo Editor. The most baffling thing to me was how people the left would get into a car, drive 8 hours up a protest to stand in the rain and get beat up by police but they couldn’t learn to generate content beyond saying “he’s racist” " he’s a Vichy" "that’s stupid’ like real effective use of time and energy a digital world guys.

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            No I have no idea what it is. Heard it for a year. Never once have I seen what it is.

            So yeah, maybe I should “Google it, dummy” but if that’s your go-to response, how do you expect to win anyone over? You can’t keep pretending people are gonna go off and do homework just because you think they should. That’s not how people work.

            The right spells their stuff out. They’ve got videos, memes, rants, full-on content farms breaking down every issue from a hundred angles. It’s everywhere. You don’t have to go looking for it. You just absorb it.

            Meanwhile, the left’s take is always like, “Google it dummy” or “It’s not my job to educate you.” Cool. But then don’t act surprised when nobody knows what the hell you’re talking about. The messaging never lands. It never sticks. And when people say that, they get told they’re lazy or willfully ignorant. And they are. And nothing is changing that. But you still need to get a message across. And one party does it. So it isn’t an impossible task.

            Everything we know about communication says the right’s approach works. People respond to repetition, clarity, and simplicity. The left refuses to do that, almost like they think it’s beneath them and then wonders why they keep losing the narrative.

            You’re not gonna win hearts and minds by expecting everyone else to meet you at the finish line.

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      That’s because you never bothered to read past the title, probably. Even clicking on that link up there will give you a pretty good idea.