I like Harris just fine and she would have been a far better president than Donnie, but this is how JD Vance becomes President.
Bold to assume Trump 3 doesn’t happen.
Cant we find someone who is not in favor of war crimes to run from the left? How about Buttigieg
I’d be all in on that.
So, they prove once again that they don’t learn.
Never get tired of losing
What the actual fuck. They never learn.
Are you fucking kidding me.
AOC and Bernie over here amassing entire legions of working class people and they’re over here bashing themselves in the nuts. doing a straw poll with corporate doners pretending like it means fucking ANYTHING.
GODAMNIT THESE FUCKING DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING MORONS.
Perhaps time for a third party…
The problem is that I don’t know how you’d get a third party off the ground. Modern third parties all seem to fall into the trap of going all in on a presidential at the expense of any potential down ballot races.
I think Bernie’s suggestion of progressives running as independent is an interesting angle as it would be focused on down ballot races by its nature, and if you get enough independent progressives, they could coalesce into a new party down the line.
There’s also the blockade that both established parties put up, as they very much enjoy their exclusive duopoly.
Running Kamala Harris is a good start!
Sure, let’s do the same stupid shit again and expect different results.
Mmore proof the neo liberal democratic party is a controlled opposition party who bows to the will of the same Wall Street military and prison industry profiteers that guide the policies of the right. Trump is going to be handed another 4 years after they repeal the 22nd amendment. this country is a fascist hellscape
No they fucking haven’t.
I don’t know who they’re polling to come up with that trash. Dems didn’t turn out for her in 2024 because she had no answers on the economy, and refused to admit Israel was genociding Palestinians, so they sure as shit aren’t going to turn up for her in 2028–if there’s even an election in 2028–when she still won’t have any answers about the economy–which will likely be in full depression territory by then–and all she’ll be able to do with Israel is say, "well, it’s too late, all the Palestinians have been genocided, oh well).
The pool wasn’t about general election. It’s about primaries. Insane as it is, it’s all about name recognition. People in US will simply vote for the one person they heard about. But it’s still early, other candidates still have time to get their name out there.
Mind if I ask a question? Did you vote for her?
Yes. I voted for her because there was no other viable option. Claiming that she’s the best choice in primaries, for a 2028 presidential run is absolute nonsense. Running her again would be beyond stupid; it would be like running Clinton (Hilary, not Bill) a second time.
Fuck sake, get someone that’s a charismatic populist running on messages of, “hell yes, we’re going to tax the shit out of billionaires, we’re going to tax them until they’re millionaires”, with expansion of gov’t services and de-privatization as major platform planks. Dems need a Project 2028 that lays all of this shit out on an eyes-only basis so they can get the majority of it through in the first 4 months, too. Not just unwinding the damage that Trump has done to the federal bureaucracy, but EXPANDING it, and hardening it against any future interference from the executive branch.
We still have three years to go before the next election, assuming one actually happens.
At this stage in the game, the only thing that these types of polls are going to reveal is who has the most name recognition.
In other words, everyone calm down.
Thank you! Any time this kind of polling shows up on Lemmy, users seem to think this is the Plan of the Democratic Leadership Cabal, rather than an incredibly premature name recognition test.
People want to vote for people they have favorable impressions of who they also think others will vote for. Without other frontrunners, who emerge over time, it’s not surprising that polled Democrats would recognize and still support the candidate that 75 million people voted for five months ago.
If you want other candidates (I do), identify them and figure out how to help them build their profile now.
It’s crazy how fast incredibly premature polling turns into unstoppable freight train that cannot be interrupted by anything but a certified act of God signed and dated with appropriate postage to oh shit oh God what’s happening someone should have planned something.
Just like the polls that show McDonald’s, Taco Bell, or Chic fil a as America’s favorite restaurant in X state. It doesn’t take too many idiots to outweigh everyone else.
No we fucking didn’t. She can’t win a primary against sanders.
Bernie Sanders is 83. He won’t be running in the Presidential primaries.
I’d trust Bernie at 95 wayyyy more than trump at any age
Fuck no get someone younger. Enough with the senior citizens running the country.
no just no no no please god no
Please don’t.
fucking morons.
people demanding progressives, but no, lets pretend conservative democrats have a fucking chance.
how tone-deaf can you fucking be.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
They are extremely tone deaf and out of touch with what the voters want. It’s why I want the progressives in the party to split off. The progressives are screwed if they stay, so why not leave and have an actual fucking chance?
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton. Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
agreed. we have assholes like obama and bill clinton also to blame for sinking bernie in 2016.
they are 100% part of why trump is president right now.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
The primaries are open to anybody who meets the requirements. We don’t have to wait for “the party” to provide us with better candidates. The better candidates just have to follow the process to declare themselves a candidate. And then we just have to show up and vote for them.
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#2016_election
Sanders initially said that the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee; in May 2016, after falling behind in the elected delegate count, he shifted, pushed for a contested convention and arguing that, “The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party.”[46][54] Ultimately, Clinton won the nomination without relying on the votes of superdelegates; she led Sanders by a substantial number of elected delegates (from primary and caucus votes), as well by a substantial margin in the popular vote.
Also at the top of that page:
In 2018, the Democratic National Committee reduced the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention.
Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
It’s sad to think about how much better things could have been, and also if we had had Gore in 2000. But we shouldn’t forget that Clinton won the primaries popular vote by enough that the superdelegates’ votes didn’t matter.
I still feel like Harris had to gave been handicapped on progressive policies from the DNC. There’s simply no way, with her record and history, that she wouldn’t have campaigned on a completely separate platform than Biden unless he, and the DNC forbid it. Now, that brings about a new set of issues; in which she was unable to stand up to the establishment and say, fuck you guys. She used to be pretty progressive in the senate and it all went away with the VP.
Oh a secret progressive, neat. She could have chosen up until the last few days of the election to jettison the zionist garbage messaging from her campaign and choose to win and she didnt. Her campaign had polls showing she’d lose and why. Unless she literally had a gun to her head I dont want to hear how progressive she is.
On top of that she’s married to a zionist and her campaign manager was her husbands brother, also a zionist. If she wants to promise to ditch those two losers from anything relating to politics I’ll consider voting for her, otherwise she can piss right on off in every single other time she runs as well. No more zionists candidates. Reform jewish people are fine, but we need to stop trying to prop up right wing warmongers from whats supposedly the left leaning party.
What the fuckkkkk
lol
