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How it feels seeing Switch 2 discourse in the comments section of a meme mocking all sides of Switch 2 discourse:
Super expensive, low quality cameras and mics, a janky looking chat, an okay screen, and having to buy games, some of which are years old (Looking at you BOTW), for more than their original buying prices. It’s just greed. It’s always greed. They saw PS and Xbox selling at already crazy prices and just tried to put the switch 2 in there like it’s worth a car payment, or even up to a month’s rent if you want the system, a few games, and a working camera (since the cheaper one is only 480p). And they’re just coming out and saying they’ll be monitoring your screen and chats (which I think more companies do than we think). And they’ll brick your machine if they see any mods or emulations. Want to add a fun mod to Mario party? Get bricked, bitch.
If S2 looks appealing, I would highly recommend looking into the steam deck. I don’t even have the steam deck and this whole promotion cycle has me eyeing it hard which how awful they’re making the S2 launch.
I like my steam deck. It plays basically everything on steam whether it’s verified or not. Even games that don’t work well on it will still run.
Poor battery life means it’s tethered to the wall unless you’re just emulating or playing low end games.
The switch 2 will be cheaper on the secondary market and they will make a “lite” version that is cheaper or a “pro” version that makes the original cheaper. It never makes sense to buy a brand new console outside of keeping up with the joneses.
Or the Legion Go!
Every switch owner I know has a terrible opinion of the switch 2s price and the new 90$ price tag they started for games.
Meanwhile more and more people around me are buying a steam deck, I have converted 4 people last year alone. Even my nephew has one and is happy with it.
I loved my Switch. I’m not even considering buying a Switch 2. I’ll just stick to pc gaming.
That’s such a great way to phrase that.
The switch 2 has a lot more competition than the switch had, and hasn’t made up much ground.
Ive set up my switch to stream pc games via steam link :p
People around me have a different sort of take. Most of them have big powerful desktops already, and Deck doesn’t really appeal to them, so they all ended up buying Switch 1s eventually for the exclusives and portable use, and will likely follow with Switch 2. Deck is still amazing value though, considering it’s a full Linux PC you can take anywhere and use how you wish.
The people around me argue the exact opposite. When they have a desktop, they already have a hige library of games that they dont have to ourchase. But even the ones that dont have a desktop usually get persuaded when I tell them waht some games cost during sales.
I don’t have a Switch, but back with the Wii I got one despite being a big PC gamer because its games were so different from the PC, PS or Xbox games.
And the Switch 2 will probably sell as many consoles in the first week as the Deck did in its entire lifetime. They’re just not in the same league.
But the Switch 2 will very probably also not nearly sell as much as the Switch 1. But Nintendo probably already know that. The next generation will be the. interesting console. Who knows what they will come up with. Maybe they’ll manage to somehow make VR more accessible.
Edit: And I’m answering to a 3 day old comment…
Yes, I agree that the Steam Deck is a lot more niche. But nintendo has a lot bigger goal to fullfill, especially because they are shareholder driven. The Wii U sold twice as much as the steam deck now but it was considered a major flop still. I think the switch 2 will go the same route if they don’t lower the price to 300$. Especially since it has an even worse screen than the OLED switch.
Fair enough. Steam sales are a pathway to deals some consider unnatural, or so the saying goes. Especially with things like Humble Bundle.
I love my steam deck. It’s the reason why I finally ditched Windows for Linux on my gaming PC.
This past week I got into emulation on it and have been shocked at how well it has been performing.
My battery is no longer holding up the same as it did when I first purchased mine, but I’m only replacing my Steam Deck for another gaming device when the Steam Deck 2 launches.
If you need a replacement, there’s official Steam Deck batteries now available on the iFixit store. It is a bit difficult to remove, but it’s worth it to extend the life of your Deck.
Unfortunately, while Valve outsourcing repairs and parts to iFixit is great for most regions, iFixit stopped shipping to my country a few years ago, so this complicates things quite a lot :(
Do you think it might be worth finding some sort of proxy shipping service that can buy in another country and send it over? I’ve used a few when buying stuff from Japan to ship over here in the UK, and have found them to be pretty useful. Worst comes to worst, you could always try (insert somewhat shady Chinese marketplace of choice here, there’s a bunch) and hope you get a good battery.
If you haven’t yet, check out the latest steamos update - they finally added battery charge limits it won’t help a dying battery get better, but it may stave off the demise.
Nintendo didn’t start $90 games.
They just announced it first.Yeah, and fuck the studios for it. It’s not like the money is going to the people who are actually working on the games. It goes to the CEOs. So fuck them. There are enough games in the world I haven’t played to last me a lifetime. I will not be buying anything new. But I will be sailing the high seas.
Publishers. Not studios. Lots of indie studios are putting out amazing games for ten or twenty bucks.
One of Nintendo’s problems is that they are their own publisher.There are plenty of games that aren’t $90 and are actually worth the values they charge. Not everything is priced like a AAA dev pushing their yearly slop of their main franchise.
My friend was ok with $90 price tag because he doesn’t buy many games, as for me hard pass to switch 2 and its games.
He still wont be buying games. He’ll buying a cart with a key that will allow him to access leased games, for so long as nintendo decides to run the service.
What’s going on?
Basically this,
We can’t criticise a massive price increase on games and insane markups for a 480p webcam in 2025 because… People are having fun?
I mean, I can have lots of fun with asbestos too.
Never said you couldn’t, just that that’s what you look like. If asbestos is what you into then go right ahead 👍
Someone did something and, predictably, someone else bitched about it because reasons. Or something. Probably?
Unless something new has happened, it’s because the switch 2 is expensive and the games are overpriced
Something about Nintendo putting bricking your console into the license agreement if you screw with it at all.
Wuuuh? Guess they didn’t like people hacking the first one …
Its expensive, and over priced, and you don’t own it despite buying it.
I’d debate the overpriced bit. Expensive yes. People will happily pay it though since Nintendo consistently puts out some of the best in gaming.
Refer to OP image.
I mean, if they ever start releasing their first party games on other platforms then yeah, in the meantime they keep releasing some of the best games and they’re stuck behind a console paywall so for those who want to play them there isn’t much of a choice.
“Genesis does what Nintendon’t!”
“Oh yeah? Well Nintendon’t suck so I guess Genesis does.”
“Bitch, please. You don’t even got blood in Mortal Kombat.”
“AT LEAST THE MUSIC DOESN’T SOUND LIKE FARTS!”
My comment is got blast processing, so I win
Holy shit that is a blast from the past.
I’ve no idea what the discourse is like today but from what I recall:
- Nintendo: if you really like the Marios, Zeldas, sidescrollers and platformers.
- Sony: if you like highly cinematic games, action adventure games with good graphics and JRPGs.
- Microsoft (consoles after Halo 3): if you need the yearly releases of WWE and sports games and you want to support American businesses. Also, at some point, there was Lost Odyssey.
Have things changed?
I feel so old that genesis isnt on that list.
Millions of Steam Decks and their ilk have been sold, and run games significantly better on SteamOS than their Windows counterparts, to the point that Microsoft is reportedly cancelling their own gaming handheld plans. Not a massive challenger to the Switch 2 for most ordinary people, but things are definitely changing.
Microsoft are likely going to keep on trying anyway, Deck is too big of a threat to their Windows gaming monopoly for them to ignore it. Just look at how they managed to get so many Windows handheld models out of the door seemingly minutes after the Deck released with its Linux based SteamOS. Their worst nightmare is people having a viable alternative to their platforms.
Kinda agree, but the consoles already are alternatives to Windows. Don’t really see what’s super special about the Steam Deck, tbh.
Surprised Microsoft hasn’t made some sort of DRM to prevent Xbox studio games from being played on Proton, though.
PC gaming and console gaming are two very different markets, due to the open nature of PCs. Until recently, Microsoft has had a monopoly on all of it and the ability to control the environment it happens in, if not what happens in said environment. They do not want to lose that. That’s actually kinda the reason Valve started making steam machines in the first place, because they realized that their cash cow was dependent entirely on an operating system that might figure out a way to cut them out and they’d have no recourse.
The special sauce of the Deck isn’t really what it’s running (it’s just Arch with some extra Steam stuff on top), it’s more that it’s something you can just buy and use without even thinking twice about anything - a more console like experience. To get a Linux handheld with that kind of performance before, you would have to go through all kinds of hoops and trouble to get it working (a lot of people aren’t ready to reinstall the OS on a device they just bought), plus a lot of games just would not work well. Deck gave pressure on game makers to ensure Proton compatibility at launch, as it gives them an established market who would appreciate it.
I would say JRPG is on par or better on Switch, than Playstation nowadays.
No shot. You can’t even play Clair Obsur on it.
I’m also struggling to think of any JRPGs that have been released on Switch but not PS4/5 (aside from first party like Mario RPG). While I can probably name a dozen that the Switch hardware can’t even handle.
Well you have Final Fantasy up to 12, Persona, Dragon Quest, Octopath, Bravely Default II, Suikoden remaster, which are some multi platform games.
Xenoblade, Fire Emblem are two pretty heavy and exclusive series. Then as you mentioned Mario RPG (+paper mario).
I agree there are some recent JRPGs that are probably too demanding though. Clair Obscur I am hoping for a Switch 2 version, but we will see.
I was specifically trying to think of JRPGs that are on Switch and not PS4/5…
Aside from Xenoblade and FE, which, fair… Those are the only two modern series I can think of that aren’t first party Nintendo titles. And even then, the Xenoblade games have all been remasters for like at least a decade…
The Switch’s hardware was outdated when the console came out… it has always been about Nintendo’s ability to make great games regardless of hardware imo.
Can definitely agree on the Fire Emblem. Me? Hundreds of hours? Never!
Clair Obscur is not a JRPG though
For all intents and purposes, it is. And I’m sure the developers would agree, given how many homages I’ve seen so far. It’s clearly a love letter to PS1/PS2-era JRPGs.
i’m not up to date on general console discourse. but i know for a fact Nintendo, though never famous for being cheap, has been going mental lately. $80 for Mario Kart is mind boggling
I assumed the meme is related to high prices decades ago: for example, I remember saving up allowances to buy Star Fox 64, which cost about 70 bucks in the late nineties.
I get the sticker shock, but when in think about $ per fun-time, it’s easy for me to rationalize… If you’re looking for a coping mechanism that is.
By that logic, I should be paying a couple hundred dollars for my copy of Minecraft. I played that shit for 11 years.
no wonder Todd Howard keeps selling skyrim to people, i alone have a 1000h+ in that game!
Ahh, the push i needed to NOT fall into microsoft.
consoles after Halo 3
That’s very new then
Halo 3 released a year + a couple days after I was born. I voted for president last year.
Halo 3 came out nearly 2 decades ago…
I still often play it on my modern console (Xbox 360) :3
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I remember the days where you either did what Nintendon’t or you were green or blue
Good ol’ dayz
That’s me but I have guinea pigs
I am so glad I abandoned video games in 2015. I feel for the rest of you, though.
Do you play retro games or literally nothing?
I have a few dumb mobile type games on my iPad that I play when I need to not think, and I watch a good friend play video games on twitch now and again while we chat about life over the phone.
I haven’t owned a console since 2015 and am not on Steam. There are many games out there with amazing stories that I will miss out on, but I’m okay with it, tbh. I’ll catch a playthrough on youtube if a game attracts my attention enough, but even that has been awhile. Nothing against games or gamers. I just lost interest one day and I never regained it.
I was exactly like you. my last console was the original Xbox.
I got a retroid pocket 5 and have done more gaming on that in 3 months than I did in the last 10 years.
highly recommend it for the casual gamer.
I have learnt not to give a fuck. I can afford all of them if I want anyway.
