The parent comment provided tons of scientific research providing evidence towards the fact that shame doesn’t motivate weight loss and that epigenetic factors play a key difference in obesity. You laid out a few theoreticals to explain why actually, a fat person I made up in my mind doesn’t have to be fat because they can just stop eating.
I acknowledged that shame doesn’t help with weight loss and that legitimate medical conditions can cause you to gain weight. But at the end of the day we have something called the conservation of energy if you like I can drop a link explaining it but if a person doesn’t consume energy then the energy level in their body can’t go up. Fat is a form of stored chemical energy. Therefore the single way that people end up fat is overconsumption of calories.
I explained several of the medical reasons why a person might be more likely to over consume calories even though many of them are very rare but if you can find a single reliable source that shows a person consuming less calories than they burn and managing sustained weight gain (ignoring water weight transients) I will backtrack on everything I said and acknowledge I am wrong
Fat isn’t necessarily just about CICO. Someone might have a disorder causing them to store more fat than, for example, build muscle. You might have a thyroid disorder causing you to feel lethargic despite the fact that you ate a BMR level of calories, so you end up storing the remaining energy as fat. Not even getting into the variety of ways human behavior is illogical and can’t reasonably be answered with “just eat less.” Treatment for eating disorders is not like that.
The parent comment provided tons of scientific research providing evidence towards the fact that shame doesn’t motivate weight loss and that epigenetic factors play a key difference in obesity. You laid out a few theoreticals to explain why actually, a fat person I made up in my mind doesn’t have to be fat because they can just stop eating.
I acknowledged that shame doesn’t help with weight loss and that legitimate medical conditions can cause you to gain weight. But at the end of the day we have something called the conservation of energy if you like I can drop a link explaining it but if a person doesn’t consume energy then the energy level in their body can’t go up. Fat is a form of stored chemical energy. Therefore the single way that people end up fat is overconsumption of calories.
I explained several of the medical reasons why a person might be more likely to over consume calories even though many of them are very rare but if you can find a single reliable source that shows a person consuming less calories than they burn and managing sustained weight gain (ignoring water weight transients) I will backtrack on everything I said and acknowledge I am wrong
Fat isn’t necessarily just about CICO. Someone might have a disorder causing them to store more fat than, for example, build muscle. You might have a thyroid disorder causing you to feel lethargic despite the fact that you ate a BMR level of calories, so you end up storing the remaining energy as fat. Not even getting into the variety of ways human behavior is illogical and can’t reasonably be answered with “just eat less.” Treatment for eating disorders is not like that.